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As impetuous as Orlanth was, a good number of clans seem to walk in his impulsive footsteps.  However, there are some known for their forethought.  The <X clan> is one such group, giving to intricate plans.   What sets them apart from other clans is their desire to have good relations with trolls.  If you seek their support, you must bear this in mind.


Forming a Tribe: the Planning Clan
Planning clan

Type

Chain Event

Happens when Recruiting clans to form tribe

Important Note:  If you recruited the <Raiding Clan>, and promised not to include the <X clan>, then you will not have the option to recruit them.

Event Dialogue

The <X> clan is known for its long-range planning, and for a tavern it maintains as part of its market. Its chief, <Y> was expecting you and has a list of demands prepared. He wants the tribal hall to be built on <X clan> land. He wants to host the confederation moot. He wants the right to build and run taverns in other tulas. He wants the new tribe to make peace with the trolls.

  1. Abandon negotiations.
  2. Agree to make peace with trolls.
  3. Allow them to build a tribal hall.
  4. Allow them to host the confederation moot.
  5. Let them build taverns on other clan's tulas.
  6. Give gifts.

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Consequences

  • Making peace with the trolls seems to be their biggest concern.  As such, at some later point this clan will come forward, and push for a meeting with Cragspider
  • Much regard is given to the clan that builds the tribal hall and the <X clan> knows this.  However, this is an option you can usually give without too much ill-will from other clans.
  • The clan which hosts the confederation moot gains much political influence as well.  This definitely pleases the <X Clan>, but other clans may be more upset by this turn of events.
  • Allowing the <X clan> to build taverns on other tulas helps gain their heartfelt support, and in the short term is a good choice.  However, this decision can come back in Tavern Burning.
  • If nothing else, giving gifts can extend your influence.  The more cattle/gifts you give, the better the results.
  • There is always the choice to abandon negotiations, especially if you can't come to terms with the <X clan>, or decide they aren't worth the effort.  Realize any gifts you give will remain with this clan if you end negotiations. 


Event:  Troll Negotiations

Note:  This event only occurs if you made an agreement with the <Raiding Clan> ala Forming a Tribe: the Raiding Clan.  See the variant for further information. 

The following is if you told the <Raiding Clan> they can expect tribute from the trolls.

As part of the negotations to create a new tribe, you promised the <Raiding Clan> that the <Planning Clan>  will exact tribute for the <Raiding Clan> from its tavern keepers.  Now you must return to the <Planning Clan> and persuade them to accept this demand.

1.  Compensate the <Planning Clan>
2.  Compensate the trolls.
3.  Cut the <Raiding Clan> out of the new tribe.
4.  Cut the <Planning Clan> out of the new tribe.
5.  "You will be outcasts forever if you favor trolls over Orlanthi."

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Variant A:  If you told the <Raiding Clan> the trolls will be expelled, the first part becomes:

As part of the negotations to create a new tribe, you promised the <Raiding Clan> that the <Planning Clan>  will expel its troll tavern-keepers.  Now you must return to the <Planning Clan> and persuade them to accept this demand.

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It will give the exact same consequences.

Variant B:  If you told the <Raiding Clan> the trolls will undergo a ritual of humiliation:

As part of the negotations to create a new tribe, you promised the <Raiding Clan> that the <Planning Clan> will force its troll tavern-keepers to undergo ritual humiliation by the <Raiding Clan>.  Now you must return to the <Planning Clan> and persuade them to accept this demand.

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Additionally, a 6th option will appear:

6.  Offer to perform a balancing ritual that shows respect for trolls.

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Consequences:  Troll Negotiations

This is if you promised the <Raiding Clan> tribute from the trolls

  • Compensating the <Planning Clan> is a bit convoluted, but works.  You are essentially subsidizing the trolls out of your own coffers.  The only reason you would want to go this route is if trolls are your ancestral enemies.  Going this route doesn't lessen your magic.
  1. The amount you can offer the <Planning Clan> is dependent on the amount you promised the <Raiding Clan>.  The minimum is half the amount the <Raiding Clan> gets, the maximum is double the same amount.  So if you promised the <Raiding Clan> 6 units, the range will be from 3 to 12. 
  1. Once you decide the amount, you will then get a second menu (with the same range as above) which you can decide how many units the trolls give the <Raiding Clan>.
  1. If you cover the entire amount, or even give 'extra', this improves relations with the <Planning Clan>
  • You can compensate the trolls directly.  You can offer them goods from 1 to 50.  Be sure to at least cover the amount you negotiated with the <Raiding Clan>.
  • Cutting the <Raiding Clan> or the <Planning Clan> can solve the problem, but certainly worsens relations with the appropriate clan.
  • Threatening the <Planning Clan> with being outcasts earns little but their disfavor.  They will stand by the trolls in their midst.

Variant A Consequences (Expelling the trolls):

  • Options 1, 2, 5 will just earn the <Planning Clan>'s outright refusal, as they will stand by their trolls.
  • If you prefer the <Raiding Clan> then you might as well as cut the <Planning Clan>.   
  • If you prefer the <Planning Clan> then cut the <Raiding Clan> from the list of potential tribe mates.

Variant B Consequences (Ritual submission)

  • Giving the <Planning Clan> compensation works well, but you have to offer a good amount.  You will be given a choice from 1 to 50.  The more you give, the better the reaction.  However, the trolls themselves will be displeased.
  • You can compensate the trolls directly. You can offer them goods from 1 to 50. Be sure to at least cover the amount you negotiated with the <Raiding Clan>.
  • Cutting the <Raiding Clan> or the <Planning Clan> can solve the problem, but certainly worsens relations with the appropriate clan.
  • Threatening the <Planning Clan> with being outcasts earns little but their disfavor. They will stand by the trolls in their midst.
  • Performing a yearly balance ritual for the trolls will settle the matter peacefully, but earns their incredulity at the convoluted mess.

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